<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Nectome's Substack]]></title><description><![CDATA[Field notes from the frontier of preservation technology]]></description><link>https://articles.nectome.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o_Md!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde8a4bb1-2bf9-4b57-9abb-aeb972169633_1280x1280.png</url><title>Nectome&apos;s Substack</title><link>https://articles.nectome.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 20:26:49 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://articles.nectome.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Nectome]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[nectome@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[nectome@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Nectome]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Nectome]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[nectome@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[nectome@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Nectome]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Some thoughts on Nectome's long-term stability]]></title><description><![CDATA[Preservation Sequence: part IV]]></description><link>https://articles.nectome.com/p/some-thoughts-on-nectomes-long-term</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://articles.nectome.com/p/some-thoughts-on-nectomes-long-term</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nectome]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2026 01:49:56 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o_Md!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde8a4bb1-2bf9-4b57-9abb-aeb972169633_1280x1280.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>One of the best ways to reduce Nectome&#8217;s long-term risk is to show that preservation is a thing people want by <a href="https://nectome.substack.com/p/preservation-pre-sales">buying one yourself</a>; this is a critical time in the organization and your contributions now have an outsized impact in our likelihood of success. I&#8217;m happy to discuss our preservation personally with anyone who&#8217;s interested. Our current presales are open until the end of April.</strong></p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;96a58e60-77c6-4039-a84c-acd34ae72324&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;Nectome&#8217;s preservation services employ a new method for whole-body, whole-brain, human end-of-life preservation for the purpose of future revival.&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:&quot;Read full story&quot;,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;lg&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Preservation Pre-sales &quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:409163674,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Nectome&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/55614202-d1ae-4b50-b482-df1f8034f222_512x512.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2026-03-11T00:38:43.249Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h6ko!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb1bd710c-731a-4645-8025-87411bc6a264_1220x1026.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://nectome.substack.com/p/preservation-pre-sales&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:190568392,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:23,&quot;comment_count&quot;:2,&quot;publication_id&quot;:6763977,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Nectome's Substack&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o_Md!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde8a4bb1-2bf9-4b57-9abb-aeb972169633_1280x1280.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>Up till now I&#8217;ve been talking about Nectome&#8217;s recent advances in structural preservation, and what that means for the immediate concerns of doing preservation to our standards. With this post I want to do something different: I want to talk about Nectome&#8217;s future and how we&#8217;re thinking about long-term care of people who entrust their preservation to us.</p><p>In contrast to the last posts where I had experiments and images to back up what I was saying, this post is more speculative. I&#8217;ve spent the last ten years thinking about how to do long-term care for people: I&#8217;ve talked with lawyers and hedge fund managers; I&#8217;ve studied the world&#8217;s end of life laws; I&#8217;ve listened to people like Mike Darwin tell the stories of past cryonics attempts. We have a lot of great business advisors among our investors who care about us succeeding. But I&#8217;m not an expert at long-term organizational stability the way I am for preservation. And making a good long-term plan is intrinsically harder than doing preservations well, in my opinion, because it&#8217;s far less constrained to deal with the uncertain future than it is to do a surgery well.</p><p>I want to talk about our current default plan for long-term care, and our reasons behind it, and then I want you to give me your thoughts. I think I have a lot to learn from people who&#8217;ve also spent a lot of time thinking about the future. I hope that Nectome will ultimately be a lot stronger because we got good feedback early on from the kinds of people who read these posts.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://articles.nectome.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Nectome's Substack! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>Robust to outages and cheap to maintain</h3><p>The first and most immediate concern for long-term safekeeping of our clients is their physical long-term integrity. What happens if the power goes out? What about a natural disaster? What if we need to move them quickly? Basically, how will we keep people physically safe?</p><p>Traditional cryonics uses -196&#176;C, the temperature of boiling liquid nitrogen. While it provides long-term stability, it&#8217;s expensive and vulnerable to supply disruption. In idealized pure-cold cryo, the goal is to chill the body until it forms a solid glass; to sustain this glassy state, you need a constant supply of liquid nitrogen, and a team of people to replenish the supply. If and when that supply chain ever breaks, people preserved this way begin to thaw within a month.</p><p>This is even worse than it sounds, because there&#8217;s an intermediate danger zone between &#8220;glassy&#8221;(around -130&#176;C) and &#8220;liquid&#8221; (around -40&#176;C): passing through it causes catastrophic damage as ice forms in the brain during a process called <em><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25428002/">devitrification</a></em>. A cryonics patient who warms to room temperature passes through this zone twice before returning to their proper temperature &#8211; once on the way up, once on the way down again. This must be avoided at all costs, meaning that traditional cryonics has to have 100% uptime; cryonics patients actually can&#8217;t be warmed up without sophisticated technology like <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0011224026000465">microwave-based rewarming</a> that hasn&#8217;t been perfected yet.</p><p>In contrast, the aldehyde-based fixation that Nectome uses  is cheap to sustain. We will maintain a temperature around -30&#176;C, above the &#8220;danger zone&#8221;, and keep preserved people in a liquid state for the long-term.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> That&#8217;s colder than your kitchen freezer, but typical in many biomedical applications. Instead of relying on deliveries of expensive, consumable coolant, we can buy a mass-manufactured freezer from any of a wide range of commercial suppliers. For us, the more likely scenario of failing warm is much less destructive than failing cold. In the worst case where we have a total equipment failure including our backup generators, or we go bankrupt and have to transport the preserved people to a companion facility, even a few days transport at room temperature is not damaging to ultrastructure.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> Overall, Nectome-style preservation is a much simpler and more forgiving endeavor than, for instance, storing frozen embryos.</p><p>The resilience of aldehyde-based fixation also unlocks the novel possibility of using <em>permafrost. </em>While our business model is currently based on having a dedicated, supervised facility, permafrost is an option that some people find appealingly geopolitically robust, and a nice method of last resort. The ground layer in parts of the Arctic and Antarctic never thaws year-round; a preserved person placed there in permafrost would maintain adequately low temperatures for centuries without any human intervention at all.</p><p>I hope Nectome itself survives for a long time, but in the event of tail risks such as economic collapse, catastrophic societal upheaval, or bankruptcy without recourse, aldehydes do give us permafrost as a lifeline. Our final commitment as an organization may be to transfer our preserved people to permafrost.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> While some catastrophes would happen too quickly to react to, many would be handleable in this fashion.</p><p><strong>My question to you: </strong>if you had to take care of preserved people as cheaply as physically possible for the long term, assuming the temperature must be between -25&#176;C and -35&#176;C for 99% of the time over 100 years, and not between -36&#176;C and -99&#176;C for more than 48 hours over 100 years, what would <strong>you </strong>do? I think permafrost is the best option here, but <strong>where</strong> would you choose exactly, and why? Or if you have a better idea than permafrost, please let me know!</p><h3>Priced to thrive, run on endowment</h3><p>A second source of risk is the funding model: who pays for preservation? How much should you charge? How do you cover the cost of long-term cold preservation for the indeterminate future? How do you weather challenges like inflation over long time scales? What happens if we get sued?</p><p>Let&#8217;s start with recurring costs. We&#8217;re dealing with a situation where we want to disburse funds over a long period of time, and for predictable sources of expense &#8211; mainly refrigeration. Like other organizations faced with this shape of situation, notably universities, graveyards, pension funds, and our longest-lived cryonics companies, we choose an <em>endowment model.</em></p><p>In this model, part of the up-front payment is placed in an endowment, where it is invested in diverse, resilient assets and managed by financial experts hired for this purpose. In this way, the interest gained on the investment beats the exponential attrition due to inflation, which would otherwise wipe out most fixed investments. And while economic upheavals are certainly a risk for the endowment model, we think that investing prudently and diversely is our best option.</p><p>I think that Alcor, graveyards, etc got it right: if you have fixed costs you need to fund for a century then you can do it with an endowment. There are other approaches we&#8217;ve contemplated&#8212;for example we know that asking surviving family members to pay on an ongoing basis <a href="https://www.cryonicsarchive.org/library/the-alcor-patient-care-trusts/">tends to fail within a few years</a>. Another option is eventually funding preservations through Medicare, and I consider this a useful future direction, but it&#8217;s not on the table currently. Right now, the endowment model has a proven track record for <em>predictable expenses over long timeframes, </em>and I see no reason to re-invent the wheel.</p><p>A second piece of the model is that we plan to make a long-term care non-profit, to be run as a distinct organization from us at Necome which handles selling and performing preservation procedures.  This separation helps ensure that in the event Nectome cannot sell enough cryopreservations to keep the lights on or if Nectome takes on costly legal battles, the people  already in care and the endowment itself will be financially insulated. Alcor uses this model, and we think it&#8217;s a wise one.</p><p>Finally, there&#8217;s a question of setting the price for preservation. It&#8217;s <a href="https://www.cryonicsarchive.org/library/long-term-financial-stability-in-cryonics/">pretty common</a>, in cryonics, for companies to run at a loss and stay alive through donations and volunteer work. I understand why this happens: we&#8217;re all in this together, trying to get as many people as possible to the future. It would be wonderful to be positioned to provide preservations pro-bono or at the cheapest possible price. As we&#8217;re taking our first steps as a company, though, I worry that this would put us in a financially precarious position, leaving us less capable of weathering challenges, expanding our research, and ultimately making preservation into a global tradition that can reliably reach everyone.</p><p>For this reason, I think I can provide the best stability and safety for our customers by running Nectome as a for-profit business, turning a profit every quarter, and growing at a brisk but steady rate. As of 2026, some of the first targets on our list include a marketing budget to extend our reach, expansion plans to offer preservation in more places, and a war chest in preparation for when Nectome needs to fight legal battles or go to bat for the emerging category of preservation law and the rights of preserved people.</p><p>As we grow, I expect that scale will be a big part of our robustness to social and legal challenges&#8212;say, if some part of the protocol gets outlawed someplace. I try to be realistic and measured about our prospects, but I think there&#8217;s real hope for a future where jurisdictions compete to pass laws that accommodate a lucrative industry in preservation. I hope that one day soon people will plan on having a career in preservation, that the field will become regulated and respectable. Many different speedbumps are more easily handled with the kind of goodwill and political and financial capital we&#8217;re working to accumulate.</p><p><strong>My question to you: </strong>if you needed to charge an up-front amount of money to keep someone preserved, assuming an amortized annual cost-of-preservation of $X/yr and ignoring the setup costs for the preservation but including room for a robust legal defense fund, how much would you charge? And how would you manage the money? Now&#8217;s a great chance to bring up options; I bet there&#8217;s some good ones I&#8217;m missing!</p><h3>Allies who keep us honest and wise</h3><p>How will we keep our quality standards high? What about competitors? What if we&#8217;re bought out by a larger company? What about our mental health? Basically, how can we keep ourselves from losing our way?</p><p>We have a lot to prove as an emerging startup with goals this ambitious and scientifically demanding. Fortunately, we&#8217;re not starting from scratch and we&#8217;re not working alone: we&#8217;ve surrounded ourselves with a team of skilled advisors&#8212;including scientists, business mavens, cryonics veterans&#8212;who are among the smartest people we know, and whose collective knowledge helps steer us right and keep us true to our values. Many of these people are understandably sensitive about being named, but I&#8217;ll name-drop our YC group lead <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Seibel">Michael Seibel</a> and neuroscientist <a href="https://news.uchicago.edu/profile/narayanan-bobby-kasthuri">Bobby Kasthuri</a>.</p><p>Some of our community members, like <a href="https://acritch.com/">Andrew Critch</a> and recently <a href="https://maxharms.com/">Max Harms</a>, have given generously of their time to come investigate what we&#8217;re doing with a skeptical eye. I&#8217;m enormously grateful for the spirit of scientific inquiry and citizen journalship in which they approached us; I consider that kind of rigor and respect to be one of the greatest gifts one human being can give another. I believe Max intends to write about his findings and opinions on his blog, and I&#8217;ll link his piece here once he publishes it.</p><p>We deliberately <a href="https://nectome.substack.com/p/nullius-in-verba">cultivate costly external validation</a>, both to be transparent, and because it keeps our standards high. One of our goals is that, by pioneering radical transparency and sky-high scientific standards in this newly-forming field, we&#8217;re helping to set a standard for all who follow. One of the risks we&#8217;ve got our finger on is the prospect of being undercut by a competitor that is cheaper because they cut corners on quality and scientific validation&#8212;someone who&#8217;s offering slapdash preservation that costs less because it sacrifices quality standards in favor of snazzy advertising and fast talk. I hope that rigorous standards applied across the cryonics industry mean that the whole field can be our allies, pushing us to offer consumers a better, cheaper product.</p><p>Like any scientist working to expand the boundaries of their field, I&#8217;m constantly indebted to those who came before me, and I rely on the hard-won <em>metis </em>of cryonics veterans. I&#8217;m glad I don&#8217;t need to discover the pitfalls of ongoing family payments for myself, and that I can imitate Alcor&#8217;s holding company setup wholesale. Every time I talk to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Darwin">Mike Darwin</a> about what he&#8217;s seen over the years, I learn something new about how to run Nectome.</p><p>You&#8217;re part of our community, too. Someone who&#8217;s preserved poorly can&#8217;t call up the Better Business Bureau and complain, so they need you to keep the field honest. Cryonics consumers should demand to see randomized samples at sufficient resolution to see synapses, prepared in animal models representative of the kinds of preservation clients actually receive, like Andrew Critch did. As cryonics becomes more mainstream, insist on good third-party regulation. You are entitled to receive the lifesaving services you pay for, not an inferior substitute.</p><p>In short, we&#8217;re not going alone, and we don&#8217;t intend to. We&#8217;re passionate about making sure preservation succeeds for us, too, and our friends and family. We&#8217;re radical about demanding external validation to calibrate our optimism.</p><p><strong>My question to you</strong>: Check out <a href="https://www.brainpreservation.org/accreditation/">https://www.brainpreservation.org/accreditation/</a>, the BPF&#8217;s page describing the accreditation program it&#8217;s building. Do you find the steps they&#8217;re taking convincing? Sufficiently rigorous? Give us feedback please, either in the comments or to Ken Hayworth (<a href="mailto:kenneth.hayworth@gmail.com">kenneth.hayworth@gmail.com</a>) directly.</p><p><strong>Another question for you</strong>: If you were starting a preservation company and were worried about keeping yourself honest, how would you set it up? What sorts of advisors would you want to have?</p><h3>Proactive about laws and culture</h3><p>What if they make preservation illegal in our jurisdiction? What if we get sued? What if we never get any kind of scale?</p><p>Preservation can seem weird to people right now. It occupies a strange and illegible position adjacent to the medical landscape, leaving its practitioners vulnerable to legal attacks and social opprobrium. I <a href="https://www.brainpreservation.org/large-mammal-announcement/">won the Brain Preservation Prize</a> for large mammals in 2018, but it took almost another decade of innovation to devise a method legal to use on humans.</p><p>Nectome&#8217;s preservation has a lot of social and logistical advantages over previous cryonics approaches. Our cases are planned, opt-in procedures; we significantly reduce the last-minute chaos of cross-country phone calls, relatives questioning the patient&#8217;s wishes, hospitals attempting to restrict access. Because we&#8217;re physically near all our clients as legal death occurs, we have a good opportunity to establish clear consent, and can avoid ever being in a position where we have to <a href="https://www.cryonicsarchive.org/library/iowa-court-of-appeals-upholds-cryopreservation-wishes/">disinter someone&#8217;s remains</a>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> Relatives have a chance to say farewell to their loved ones, and we can speak with them in advance about what to expect from the preservation process.</p><p>Another social advantage we can offer is compatibility with ordinary funerals. When I&#8217;ve worked with donated human cadavers, the results have been something I&#8217;d be happy to show to their families: the surgical incisions are easily covered by clothing and other techniques, and the person can rest peacefully at room temperature for weeks without issues. People I speak to feel very positively about this, and I&#8217;m hopeful that it lets us spend fewer <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/wkuDgmpxwbu2M2k3w/you-have-a-set-amount-of-weirdness-points-spend-them-wisely">weirdness points</a>. I&#8217;d like to smoothly integrate with the existing funeral industry, just like with the medical and legal systems.</p><p>We&#8217;ve taken care to operate within a convenient and sensible legal jurisdiction. This is why we&#8217;re based in Oregon, even though I anticipate many of our early clients will be from California. Oregon&#8217;s medical aid-in-dying (MAiD) law is the oldest in the US and enjoys a <a href="https://pdxscholar.library.pdx.edu/open_access_etds/1015/">strong local base of support</a>.</p><p>One way a preservation may fail after the fact could be if the preserved body is autopsied, which typically destroys the brain. Our model is protective here: when someone uses MAiD, their death is declared by their attending physician, and their underlying terminal illness is listed as the cause. The legal system considers their death to be a natural one, and the medical examiner has no interest in investigating further because the person&#8217;s death has already been documented and was expected; generally they&#8217;re interested in unexpected / exceptional deaths.</p><p>Even with all of this, I&#8217;m aware that we face a great deal of uncharted legal territory, especially as we hope to expand beyond the relatively small scope of prior cryonics organizations. I consider it our job at Nectome to map out that territory, and this is why we&#8217;re building our own regulatory framework to fill a legal void. Right now we&#8217;re working under scientific research laws, but one of the goals at the top of my long-term list is carving out a new, proper legal niche for preservation.</p><p>I take inspiration here from birth doulas, who have historically operated in a similarly underregulated area. Doulas built their own regulatory standards and agencies, and many states have chosen to simply legitimize those agencies, or to adopt standards heavily informed by theirs. For instance, in Oregon, <a href="https://healthlaw.org/doula-medicaid-training-and-certification-requirements-summary-of-current-state-approaches-and-recommendations-for-improvement/">doulas may complete one of eight approved training programs</a> in order to receive Medicaid reimbursement. I imagine a world where Medicaid offers to reimburse preservations certified by the BPF, with preserved people considered to be in a &#8220;chemically induced long-term coma&#8221; instead of classified as scientific research samples.</p><p><strong>My question to you:</strong> Imagine you&#8217;re running Nectome, and you&#8217;re launching your post-mortem preservation program. What are you most worried about in terms of social and legal issues, and what would you do to address them early on?</p><h3><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_of_astronomical_suffering">S-risks</a></h3><p>What if it feels like something while being preserved? What if the world changes and the future wants to revive and hurt preserved people? What if society collapses? These are all questions I&#8217;ve heard, here and elsewhere.</p><p>With regards to what it feels like to be preserved, I can with high confidence say it feels the same as <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/brxjGPbMy2zCQxFma/why-do-i-believe-preserving-structure-is-enough">DHCA</a>, and that&#8217;s nothing at all. You need action potentials to think, and they&#8217;re not happening during preservation because of the dual effects of cold and crosslinks.</p><p>On the other hand, I can&#8217;t out-of-hand refute the risk of the future being very unpleasant, either because of takeover by a hostile AI or some other mechanism. The best solution I&#8217;ve come up with to help mitigate this risk is to very carefully record the preferences of everyone who we preserve and offer to cremate them if we anticipate that the <em>chain of custody</em> is likely to become compromised. Around half of people in my experience say that they would like to be cremated if we are going to lose chain of custody,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> or under some other condition, and the other half want to be preserved at all costs no matter what.</p><p>If it seems like things are deteriorating, and despite our best efforts we will lose control of the people we preserve, it may be that the last act of Nectome is to bury half of them in permafrost (according to their wishes)  in an undisclosed location in hopes that someone will care later, and cremate the other half as they requested. It&#8217;s not something I&#8217;d ever want to do, but if I can create the safety for people to choose preservation today by promising to maybe cremate them in the future, I think it&#8217;s the right thing to do. I hope this means that someone preserved by Nectome is only subject to the same ordinary danger of <em>very sudden </em>S-risks that you and I are subject to today.</p><p><strong>My question to you: </strong>Can you think of another way to mitigate S-risks for people being preserved today? Under what conditions would you like to be cremated after you were preserved?</p><h3>Towards the future, with optimism and care</h3><p>There is some faith in an organization that only comes with a proven track record of longevity. At the same time, <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/s/oLGCcbnvabyibnG9d/p/zsG9yKcriht2doRhM">rationalists can do better</a> than reference-class forecasting. What Nectome can offer you, today, is an organization built on the wisdom of previous cryo attempts, and a set of unprecedented advantages against a variety of the most-likely failure modes on our list. We&#8217;re also thinking about long-tail risks and how we can address them.</p><p>One of the most important things at this tender stage is that we&#8217;re trying to become resilient at scale. There&#8217;s a lot that can kill a small company that a large company can weather with ease. We&#8217;re working daily to reach more people. <a href="https://nectome.substack.com/p/preservation-pre-sales">Pre-sales</a> are doubly valuable to us in this project: they contribute directly to our bottom line at a critical time in our company&#8217;s development, and they help us secure more investment.</p><p>I&#8217;ve asked a lot of questions here, and I really do care about your answers. My commitment to you is that <strong>I&#8217;ll read and respond to every comment posted here in the next two weeks, within three days, barring anything super unexpected on my end.</strong></p><p>There&#8217;s no better time to influence how Nectome implements its preservation program, and I&#8217;m really looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Let&#8217;s make this a beautiful community effort.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p> We <em>can </em>still vitrify, but we choose not to by default since it&#8217;s not really necessary, it&#8217;s cheaper, and failing warm is much safer at our default temperature.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p> Incidentally, this tolerance for periods at room temperature is also why we're compatible with ordinary funerals, unlike previous methods.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>For those who prefer this. Some people want to be cremated if we can't maintain control of them and enforce restrictions on how they're revived; others might prefer a transfer of custody to a family member or another cryonics organization. We discuss this with clients individually as part of the pre-preservation process.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p> To be clear, I think Alcor acted heroically here to defend the interests of their clients. It's just an ugly and contentious situation that I'm glad to avoid.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>We're talking about things that severely disrupt the chain of custody, like a new law that confiscates Nectome's preserved people, not things that simply change custody in a sensible manner, like Nectome and another company merging and changing names, with the merged entity pledging to respect the wishes of the preserved people.</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Launching: Fireside Chats]]></title><description><![CDATA[Join the Nectome team for small-group discussions. First one this Friday!]]></description><link>https://articles.nectome.com/p/launching-fireside-chats</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://articles.nectome.com/p/launching-fireside-chats</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nectome]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2026 01:28:45 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FUIp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff2f3274d-425c-4c79-8768-6bcd5cdffcdd_6000x4000.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re excited to announce our new <strong>fireside chat series. </strong>Come join us on Zoom to talk about the hot issues of preservation and ask the team your questions.</p><p>The first chat will be <strong>Friday, April 10th, 7PM PDT. </strong>The topic is risk &amp; resilience: how do you make plans for hundreds of years of safekeeping of preserved people? Aurelia will speak briefly, followed by discussion with the audience.</p><p>Register to attend <a href="https://luma.com/nrheav0j">here</a>, and come prepared with questions!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FUIp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff2f3274d-425c-4c79-8768-6bcd5cdffcdd_6000x4000.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FUIp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff2f3274d-425c-4c79-8768-6bcd5cdffcdd_6000x4000.jpeg 424w, 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Fire not included.</figcaption></figure></div><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why do I believe preserving structure is enough?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Preservation Sequences: Part III]]></description><link>https://articles.nectome.com/p/why-do-i-believe-preserving-structure</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://articles.nectome.com/p/why-do-i-believe-preserving-structure</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nectome]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 22:02:19 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UoPU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cb9dce-626b-42ca-83aa-4ee2f24c2862_1600x1179.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot even our best neuroscientists don&#8217;t know about the human brain. How can we have any reasonable hope for preservation given those unknowns? What if there are crucial memory mechanisms that are so poorly understood, we don&#8217;t even know to check whether our methods preserve them? As it turns out, there&#8217;s some interesting empirical evidence about the general <em>shape</em>, and limits, of those unknowns.</p><p>In Ted Chiang&#8217;s short story <em><a href="https://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fiction/exhalation/">Exhalation</a></em>, a race of aliens have brains which run on compressed air, performing computations and storing information in elaborate arrangements of hinged gold-foil leaves. The leaves are held in position by a constant stream of air flowing through the brain&#8217;s tubules, encoding alien thoughts and memories. That ephemeral suspension pattern <em>is</em> the whole self&#8212;any alien whose supply of compressed air runs out is reduced to a catatonic state, all of their memories erased as the gold-foil leaves hang limply down. Even if air pressure is restored, the original information is lost for good. The person can never be recovered.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://articles.nectome.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Nectome's Substack! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>If this was how brains worked in our world, I&#8217;d be working on a very different kind of preservation. I might need to throw my hat in with the longevity researchers, or try to invent some kind of relativistic time-dilation bubble. I think we got lucky, though: when we look at electrical blackouts in the human brain, we observe something much more convenient.</p><blockquote></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UoPU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cb9dce-626b-42ca-83aa-4ee2f24c2862_1600x1179.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UoPU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cb9dce-626b-42ca-83aa-4ee2f24c2862_1600x1179.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UoPU!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cb9dce-626b-42ca-83aa-4ee2f24c2862_1600x1179.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UoPU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cb9dce-626b-42ca-83aa-4ee2f24c2862_1600x1179.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UoPU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cb9dce-626b-42ca-83aa-4ee2f24c2862_1600x1179.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UoPU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cb9dce-626b-42ca-83aa-4ee2f24c2862_1600x1179.png" width="1456" height="1073" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/55cb9dce-626b-42ca-83aa-4ee2f24c2862_1600x1179.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1073,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UoPU!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cb9dce-626b-42ca-83aa-4ee2f24c2862_1600x1179.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UoPU!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cb9dce-626b-42ca-83aa-4ee2f24c2862_1600x1179.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UoPU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cb9dce-626b-42ca-83aa-4ee2f24c2862_1600x1179.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UoPU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55cb9dce-626b-42ca-83aa-4ee2f24c2862_1600x1179.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">This image, from <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3810832/">Broestl et al 2013</a>, is an EEG of a patient&#8217;s brain activity. The flat section in the middle is during 15 minutes of cardiac arrest. The patient fully recovered afterwards.</figcaption></figure></div><h1>The lady in the lake</h1><p>In 1999, a Swedish radiologist named Anna B&#229;genholm <a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(00)01021-7/abstract">fell into a frozen lake</a> while skiing and became trapped under an eight-inch-thick layer of ice. For forty minutes, she struggled  to breathe from a trapped air pocket before finally losing consciousness. At that point, her breathing stopped, her heart stopped pumping blood, and her brain went dark as electrical activity ceased&#8212;not like the quiet of sleep or even a coma, but complete electrocerebral silence. And then it took nearly an hour after that before rescuers managed to pull her body out of the water.</p><p>But this was not the end. Her rescuers airlifted her body to a hospital where&#8212;after two and a half hours with zero heartbeat&#8212;doctors attempted to carefully rewarm her. The operation took nine hours, but in the end, she survived. Even more remarkably, she made essentially a complete recovery, with no lasting brain damage save for the loss of some immediate short term memory, and no lingering problems save for some nerve damage in her hands and feet.</p><p>So a person who fell into a frozen lake, spending an hour with zero vital signs and a core body temperature of 57 &#176;F/13.7 &#176;C, survived the experience. The mishap was a freak accident, but the astonishing fact that recovery is possible tells us something about how brains work. B&#229;genholm&#8217;s case should already make us suspicious of any theory where&#8212;like the unfortunate gold-foil leaves in Chiang&#8217;s pneumatic aliens&#8212;the ephemeral <em>live activity </em>of the brain is load-bearing for memory and personal identity.  This situation looks like the sort of thing you&#8217;d expect to observe in a universe where brains can safely be turned off and back on again. Whatever consequences B&#229;genholm may have suffered from her accident, she certainly seemed to emerge with her memories, cognition, and personality intact.</p><h1>Using cold to save lives: DHCA</h1><p>How is such survival possible? Of course, at ordinary <em>warm</em> temperatures, we can only go a few minutes without oxygen before suffering lasting catastrophic damage&#8212;hence the debilitating consequences of heart attack and stroke. But cold-water survival, which has been documented since ancient times, is another story. It turns out that a <em>warm</em>, oxygen-starved brain quickly begins to damage itself. While you&#8217;d ideally like your brain to have all the oxygen it wants, the next best thing is to avoid trying to run it&#8212;just like you&#8217;d power off your phone if you spilled a glass of water on it. It turns out that cold temperatures (about 15-30&#176;C) are very effective at powering down brains in this way.</p><p>In fact, once you know the phenomenon exists, powering down brains turns out to be a useful <em>technology</em>&#8212;specifically for brain and heart surgeons whose operations depend on being able to work on a brain or heart while it is temporarily offline. The heart does not try to pump blood, the brain does not spark with electricity, and yet the body does not suffocate from the resulting lack of oxygen. Hence the technique of <em>hypothermic circulatory arrest </em>(HCA) was developed.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> Before an operation, surgeons lower the body&#8217;s temperature until circulation stops, usually targeting 20-28&#176;C (moderate hypothermic circulatory arrest, MHCA) or in some cases as low as 14-20&#176;C (deep hypothermic circulatory arrest, DHCA). This extreme cooling buys a window of time in which all normal vital signs are suspended&#8212;heartbeat stops, breathing stops, the brain becomes quiet&#8212;and the delicate surgery can take place. After the procedure is complete, the patient is carefully, slowly warmed and resuscitated, and they return to everyday life.</p><p>Hypothermic circulatory arrest provides cerebral protection during an extended period without oxygen or blood flow. For this reason, it has become <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0033062013001096?via%3Dihub">the standard of care</a> (Chau, 2013) for heart and brain operations since it was developed in the 1960s: for example, <a href="https://www.annalsthoracicsurgery.org/article/S0003-4975(24)00833-6/abstract">over 7,000 patients</a> in the US underwent hypothermic circulatory arrest procedures between 2017 and 2021.</p><p>So how do patients fare afterwards? Do they survive with their memories, cognition, and personalities intact?  In fact, in addition to the anecdotal experiences of patients and surgeons in the field, there&#8217;s plenty of literature evaluating the effects of DHCA on cognition. For example, <a href="https://www.annalsthoracicsurgery.org/article/S0003-4975(00)02021-X/fulltext">Stecker et al. (2001) (Part II)</a> survey 109 patients immediately after DHCA and find that 75% are aware, oriented, and neurologically normal. This doesn&#8217;t seem bad, among a population of very ill and immediately post-operative people, several of whom suffered strokes before or during the procedure.</p><p>More to the point, <a href="https://www.annalsthoracicsurgery.org/article/S0003-4975%2808%2902243-1/fulltext">Percy et al. (2009)</a> studied people in high-cognitive professions who underwent DHCA. Included in the group were  &#8220;physicians, lawyers, doctorates, clergymen, artists, musicians, accountants, and managers&#8221;. The researchers interviewed both patients and their close family members, asking what differences they noticed before and after the surgery. The researchers found &#8220;excellent preservation of cognitive function after surgery, according to both patient and informant responses,&#8221; arguing that &#8220;although subtle deficits after DHCA might hide in individuals with less intellectually demanding professions, it is unlikely that substantive deficits could remain undetected in our high cognitive needs group.&#8221;</p><p>I still remember the first time I ever heard about DHCA: a brief digression during a TA session that was part of Sebastian Seung&#8217;s Intro to Neuroscience class at MIT, 2009. I still remember that day, because learning about DHCA was literally life changing for me. I learned that people can be &#8220;shut down&#8221; by cold, that they don&#8217;t have any appreciable brain activity in such a state, that this was still being used in hospitals routinely for tricky heart surgeries! For me, DHCA was one of those things that, once you see it, even for a moment, your life can never be the same again. I left that TA session in a haze. I hope to share some of that excitement with you today.</p><h1>Electrocerebral silence</h1><p>As a technical aside, I want to dive into the term <em>electrocerebral silence</em>&#8212;the electrical-blackout phenomenon observed in brains under hypothermic circulatory arrest. Although in cooled brains, electrical activity shuts down to the point that it&#8217;s undetectable on a standard EEG (unlike the gentle characteristic waveforms of an anesthetized or unconscious brain, electrocerebral silence looks like a total flatline; see Mizrahi et al. 1989.), the point isn&#8217;t the total absence of electricity. Brain cells, being bags of ions, may still occasionally emit tiny, sporadic sparks. The point is that they are totally disrupted in their ordinary electrical behaviors, unable to perform anything like normal synaptic computations (<a href="https://www.ibroneuroscience.org/article/S0306-4522%2800%2900109-3/abstract">Volgushev 2000</a>), and operating at levels so low they are invisible under EEG.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kPSb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F244c2a85-c151-40de-9c5c-9d861e5bdea8_751x1600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kPSb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F244c2a85-c151-40de-9c5c-9d861e5bdea8_751x1600.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/244c2a85-c151-40de-9c5c-9d861e5bdea8_751x1600.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1600,&quot;width&quot;:751,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kPSb!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F244c2a85-c151-40de-9c5c-9d861e5bdea8_751x1600.png 424w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.annalsthoracicsurgery.org/article/S0003-4975(00)01592-7/fulltext">Stecker et al 2001, Part I</a>, Figure 3,<em> &#8220;(D) precooling, (E) appearance of periodic complexes, (F) appearance of burst suppression, and (G) electrocerebral silence&#8221;. </em>This EEG readout shows the progression of electrical activity in a brain as hypothermia is induced. The final image (G) shows electrocerebral silence&#8212;where potential has fallen below the EEG&#8217;s level of random noise, around 2&#8211;3 &#181;V.</figcaption></figure></div><p><a href="https://www.annalsthoracicsurgery.org/article/S0003-4975(00)01592-7/fulltext">Stecker et al.</a> (2001) tried deliberately super-stimulating neurons in chilly hypothermic brains, inducing<em> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evoked_potential">evoked potentials</a> </em>by stimulating the wrist using a current 10-50x larger than a normal nerve signal. They found that even these oversize pulses petered out before reaching the cortex, indicating that the signaling pathways through the deep brain had been disrupted. The neurons had lost their ability to transmit information.</p><p>Cool them even further, and you can eventually knock out the ability of individual neurons to fire at all, even when artificially stimulated. The exact failure temperature varies by neuron, but averages around 12&#176;C, and gets as low as 4&#176;C (<a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/abs/10.1152/jn.1989.62.6.1287">Girard and Bullier, 1989</a>).   Notably, 4&#176;C is a temperature from which humans have recovered (<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1016/j.wem.2020.02.003#bibr4-j-wem-2020-02-003">Zafren 2020</a>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LsWZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a965bad-3d5f-4ecb-a1ba-9f9a0846f158_562x272.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LsWZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a965bad-3d5f-4ecb-a1ba-9f9a0846f158_562x272.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LsWZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a965bad-3d5f-4ecb-a1ba-9f9a0846f158_562x272.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LsWZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a965bad-3d5f-4ecb-a1ba-9f9a0846f158_562x272.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LsWZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a965bad-3d5f-4ecb-a1ba-9f9a0846f158_562x272.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LsWZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a965bad-3d5f-4ecb-a1ba-9f9a0846f158_562x272.png" width="562" height="272" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0a965bad-3d5f-4ecb-a1ba-9f9a0846f158_562x272.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:272,&quot;width&quot;:562,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LsWZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a965bad-3d5f-4ecb-a1ba-9f9a0846f158_562x272.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LsWZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a965bad-3d5f-4ecb-a1ba-9f9a0846f158_562x272.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LsWZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a965bad-3d5f-4ecb-a1ba-9f9a0846f158_562x272.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LsWZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a965bad-3d5f-4ecb-a1ba-9f9a0846f158_562x272.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/abs/10.1152/jn.1989.62.6.1287">Girard and Bullier 1989</a>, Figure 5A. Most neurons become incapable of firing around 12&#176;C.</figcaption></figure></div><p>In short, I&#8217;d argue that in a person undergoing routine HCA, the occasional solitary neuron may send off sparks, but it&#8217;s clear these chilled, oxygen-starved neurons are almost entirely silent, are unable to communicate with each other over long distances, and that the ordinary dynamics of electrical cascades in the brain&#8212;and whatever information those dynamics held&#8212;have been totally disrupted.</p><h1>Known unknowns</h1><p>When I look at the state of the evidence, I find it implausible that we live in the inconvenient world of Chiang&#8217;s aliens. Instead, I seem to observe a world where the electrical cascades in the brain can be disrupted and zeroed out, but as long as the structure is intact, latent cognition remains intact. (For what it&#8217;s worth, &#8220;memory is structural&#8221; is also the conventional <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saFDeGTYnRU">view among neuroscientists</a>.)</p><p>This is why Nectome has put so much energy into preserving <em>nanostructure</em> in exquisite detail. There&#8217;s a lot we don&#8217;t know about the human brain, but whatever secrets it holds, the evidence points to them being stored in its intricate physical structures. We can&#8217;t decipher them yet&#8212;but we can make sure the structure is right there, ready for the future.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9124943/">Charles Drew</a> was one of the pioneers of HCA; and I&#8217;m sure, regardless of what&#8217;s been written after that fact, that he had to fight to make the idea happen; progress requires people to stand up and do the &#8220;obvious&#8221; often at significant personal expense.</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Nullius in Verba]]></title><description><![CDATA[Independent verification by the Brain Preservation Foundation and the Survival and Flourishing Fund: the results so far]]></description><link>https://articles.nectome.com/p/nullius-in-verba</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://articles.nectome.com/p/nullius-in-verba</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nectome]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 03:21:37 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMUV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d0e4b05-01ce-445e-acae-45f205a5b1b0_1024x452.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Cultivating independent verification</h1><p>Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. In my previous post, &#8220;<a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/E9xfgJHvs6M55kABD/less-dead">Less Dead</a>&#8221;, I said that my company, Nectome, has</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;created a new method for whole-body, whole-brain, human end-of-life preservation for the purpose of future revival. Our protocol is capable of preserving every synapse and every cell in the body with enough detail that current neuroscience says long-term memories are preserved. It&#8217;s compatible with traditional funerals at room temperature and stable for hundreds of years at cold temperatures.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>In this post, we&#8217;ll dive into the evidence for these claims, as well as Nectome&#8217;s overall approach to cultivating rigorous, independent validation of our methods&#8212;a cornerstone of the kind of preservation enterprise I want to be a part of.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://articles.nectome.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Nectome's Substack! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>To get to the current state-of-the-art required two major developmental milestones:</p><ul><li><p><strong>Idealized preservation. </strong>A method capable of preserving the nanostructure of the brain for <em>small and large animals</em> under <em>idealized laboratory conditions</em>. Specifically, could we preserve animals well if we were allowed to perfectly control the time and conditions of death?  <br><br>This work (2015-2018) resulted in a brand-new technique&#8212;aldehyde-stabilized cryopreservation&#8212;which was carefully independently vetted by Ken Hayworth of the Brain Preservation Foundation over a three day-long marathon session during which I preserved a rabbit and pig under his supervision. After, he reviewed multiple samples from both brains with electron microscopy. I published <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001122401500245X">Aldehyde-Stabilized Cryopreservation</a> in <em>Cryobiology</em>, and won the small- and large-mammal prizes from the BPF as a result.  With this work, we had an existence proof: preserving entire brains long-term in nanoscale detail was absolutely achievable, at least under laboratory conditions.<br><br></p></li><li><p><strong>Real-world preservation.</strong> A method capable of preserving the nanostructure of the brain under <em>realistic conditions</em>. Specifically, could we extend the laboratory method to work under the legal requirements and practical limitations that constrain real-world human cases? <br><br>Adapting the technique to messy real-world conditions (2018-2025) took significantly more development, resulted in a bunch of insights about what is feasible and infeasible for human preservation, and shaped our entire approach to preservation going forward. In one memorable instance, once we finally had a technique that worked to our standard of rigor on pigs, we once again put it to the test in a marathon live demonstration. Andrew Critch, cofounder of the <a href="https://survivalandflourishing.fund/">Survival and Flourishing Fund</a>, personally witnessed the preservation of a rat under conditions that mimicked human preservation; the resulting brain samples were imaged in consultation with a microscopy lab at UC Berkeley and Professor Kasthuri at U Chicago. As a result of our demo, he recommended us for an investment, which we&#8217;ve since received. The real-world technique has been submitted as a preprint, <a href="https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.64898/2026.03.04.709724">Ultrastructural preservation of a whole large mammal brain with a protocol compatible with human physician-assisted death</a>.</p></li></ul><p>The rest of the post is dedicated to unpacking these results.</p><p>Five quick notes as we begin:</p><ul><li><p>By <a href="https://manifold.markets/aurelia_song/what-topic-do-you-want-nectome-to-c">popular demand</a>, this post is specifically about <em>nanostructural preservation quality</em>&#8212;achieving a level of detailed preservation throughout the entire brain and body such that synapses are traceable to their originating neurons and subsynaptic details are retained as well as traditional fixation methods used in neuroscience research. I&#8217;ll postpone the argument that whole-body nanoscale preservation is sufficient for future revival, as it deserves its own post.</p></li><li><p>A draft version of this post has been reviewed by Ken Hayworth, president of the Brain Preservation Foundation, and he signed off on it as: &#8220;an accurate description of the Brain Preservation Foundation, its history, Ken&#8217;s personal motivation, and the results of the BPF&#8217;s two preservation prizes&#8221;. I&#8217;ve not substantially modified it since.</p></li><li><p>A draft version of this post has been reviewed by Andrew Critch, cofounder of the Survival and Flourishing Fund, and he signed off on it as: &#8220;an accurate description of his visit to Nectome to evaluate their preservation technology, and the later results.&#8221; Again, it&#8217;s not been substantially modified since.</p></li><li><p>Conflict of interest note: During grad school, I worked as a volunteer for the Brain Preservation Foundation for about a year. After learning more about brain preservation, I decided to quit as a volunteer and enter the prize myself, with Ken&#8217;s approval.</p></li><li><p>You may notice that some of the references I cite throughout this post attribute my work to my deadname, Robert McIntyre. Today I go by my chosen name, Aurelia Song.</p></li></ul><h1>In the lab: Ken Hayworth and the BPF</h1><h2>What is the Brain Preservation Foundation?</h2><p>Ken Hayworth is a neuroscientist currently working at <a href="https://www.janelia.org/people/kenneth-hayworth">Janelia Research</a> (part of HHMI, the Howard Hughes Medical Institute). In 2010, Ken started the <a href="https://www.brainpreservation.org/">Brain Preservation Foundation</a> and launched the Brain Preservation Prize as a challenge to the neuroscience and cryonics community. He wanted to see researchers provide evidence that their preservation could work according to neuroscientifically reasonable standards.</p><p>As a connectomicist, Ken is used to looking at 3D models of brain tissue created with electron microscopy. These models are scanned from brains preserved with the kind of high-quality fixation that&#8217;s been standard in neuroscience for many years. After much serious thought about neuroscience, Ken has come to the conclusion that this level of physical preservation is overwhelmingly likely to capture the information necessary to restore a person in the future, and I&#8217;m inclined to agree. Again, I&#8217;ll get to this in an upcoming post.</p><p>But the electron micrographs coming from the cryonics community didn&#8217;t look like what he normally saw in the lab. There was no 3D analysis, just single frames. Worse, the tissue was severely dehydrated, making it difficult or impossible to tell whether the tissue was <strong>traceable</strong>, that is, whether each synapse could be traced back to its originating neurons.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMUV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d0e4b05-01ce-445e-acae-45f205a5b1b0_1024x452.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMUV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d0e4b05-01ce-445e-acae-45f205a5b1b0_1024x452.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMUV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d0e4b05-01ce-445e-acae-45f205a5b1b0_1024x452.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMUV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d0e4b05-01ce-445e-acae-45f205a5b1b0_1024x452.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMUV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d0e4b05-01ce-445e-acae-45f205a5b1b0_1024x452.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMUV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d0e4b05-01ce-445e-acae-45f205a5b1b0_1024x452.png" width="1024" height="452" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1d0e4b05-01ce-445e-acae-45f205a5b1b0_1024x452.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:452,&quot;width&quot;:1024,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMUV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d0e4b05-01ce-445e-acae-45f205a5b1b0_1024x452.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMUV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d0e4b05-01ce-445e-acae-45f205a5b1b0_1024x452.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMUV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d0e4b05-01ce-445e-acae-45f205a5b1b0_1024x452.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMUV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1d0e4b05-01ce-445e-acae-45f205a5b1b0_1024x452.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">The images above are taken from the BPF&#8217;s <a href="https://www.brainpreservation.org/accreditation/">Accreditation</a> page. The left image is what &#8220;typical&#8221; brain tissue looks like -- the kind that Ken and other neuroscientists are used to studying. The right image is a cryoprotected animal brain. It looks more &#8220;swirly&#8221; because it&#8217;s been dehydrated by cryoprotectants. Ken started the Brain Preservation Prize, in part, to challenge the cryonics community to produce images more like the one on the left, so they could better evaluate whether their preservation techniques worked.</figcaption></figure></div><p>To Ken and to me, this is an enormous issue. There are many ways a brain can be rendered untraceable, and comparatively few that preserve its structure. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, we have to default to the assumption that a brain is not traceable. That, in turn, calls into question whether the information preserved in the brain is adequate.</p><p>In addition to challenging the cryonics community, Ken wanted to extend a challenge to the neuroscience community. He hoped that, making use of their advanced protocols for preparing and analyzing brain tissue, they could design a technique to preserve people for later revival.</p><p>Ken was inspired by the successful Ansari X Prize to issue his challenge in the form of a prize. He raised $100,000 from a secret donor,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> and set out <a href="https://www.brainpreservation.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/BrainPreservationTechnologyPrizeRules_Ver1.pdf">the prize rules</a>: brains had to be preserved in a way that rendered them connectomically traceable, and had to be preserved so that they would very likely last for at least 100 years. There was a small version of the prize for a &#8220;small&#8221; mammal brain (think rabbit, mouse, or rat), and a &#8220;large&#8221; mammal brain (pig, sheep, etc) would win the whole thing.</p><p>I can&#8217;t overstate how influential the Brain Preservation Prize has been in advancing the field of preservation research. That $100,000 inspired me to build my protocol and led to millions of dollars of investment in better preservation. I&#8217;d love to see more scientific prizes; I think they help young people in research labs justify spending resources on important projects they&#8217;re passionate about. A young researcher, like me back in 2014, can go to her superior and say &#8220;it&#8217;s not just a personal project, it&#8217;s for this prize.&#8221;</p><h2>A protocol that works under ideal conditions: Aldehyde-Stabilized Cryopreservation, 2015</h2><p>When I started seriously looking into preservation techniques, it seemed to me that cryonics and neuroscience had opposite problems. Neuroscientists could almost instantly preserve a brain using aldehydes,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> but didn&#8217;t have a long-term strategy to keep that brain intact for a hundred years or more. Cryonicists, meanwhile, struggled to avoid damaging a brain when they perfused it with cryoprotectants, but knew how to cool a perfused brain to vitrification temperature and keep it there indefinitely.</p><p>The obvious solution was to combine the two methods. I could use fixation&#8217;s remarkable ability to stabilize biological tissue, buying time to infiltrate cryoprotectants into the brain slowly enough to avoid the crushing damage caused by rapid dehydration. Then, it would be safe to vitrify the brain for long-term preservation.</p><p>It took me about nine months to iron out all the details. The most difficult part was figuring out how to get cryoprotectants past the blood-brain barrier: it turned out that even very extended perfusion times, on their own, are not adequate to prevent dehydration. Eventually, though, I got the technique to work on rabbits (the &#8220;small mammal&#8221; model I was using). Modifying the protocol to work for pigs took me a single day and worked on the first try. I published the results of that research, <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001122401500245X">Aldehyde-Stabilized Cryopreservation</a>, in <em>Cryobiology</em>, the first step towards winning the Brain Preservation Prize.</p><h2>Independent Verification by the Brain Preservation Foundation</h2><p>The next step towards the prize required direct verification by the BPF. If you&#8217;re interested, you can read their full methodology <a href="https://www.brainpreservation.org/aldehyde-stabilized-cryopreserved-pig-brain-evaluation-images/">here</a>.</p><p>At this time, I was working at 21st Century Medicine. Ken Hayworth flew out to my location and joined me for a marathon three-day, dawn-to-dark session, during which I preserved, vitrified, rewarmed, and processed a rabbit and a pig. Whenever Ken wasn&#8217;t personally observing the brain samples, he secured them with tamper-proof stickers to preserve the chain of custody. When I had finished preparing the samples for electron microscopy, Ken personally performed the cutting and imaging of the samples back at Janelia.</p><p>This was a level of rigor I&#8217;d never observed before, certainly far beyond the peer review for the <em>Cryobiology </em>paper. This is something I admire about Ken, and I was grateful for it here. Preservation is worth being rigorous about!</p><p>The BPF prepared images using high-resolution  focused ion beam milling and scanning electron microscopy (FIB-SEM). This technology produces resolutions of up to 4 nanometers; Ken scanned the prize submissions at 8 nm and 16 nm isotropic resolution. Together with the 3D nature of the images, this is sufficient to examine a brain sample and determine whether the synapses (typically about 100 nm wide) are traceable.</p><p>Of course, imaging a whole brain is well beyond our current capabilities. Ken compensated for this by analyzing many samples, randomly chosen from different regions of the brains. The BPF released all of the images and the original 3D data files, and they&#8217;re still available today. I&#8217;ve included the pig brains below, with youtube videos showing the 3D imaging in full. Each sample is from a brain that was preserved, vitrified, and rewarmed.</p><div id="youtube2-LedqPyz4uTY" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;LedqPyz4uTY&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/LedqPyz4uTY?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><div id="youtube2-izAQbGIWF_k" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;izAQbGIWF_k&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/izAQbGIWF_k?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><div id="youtube2-RYKIePuVENY" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;RYKIePuVENY&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/RYKIePuVENY?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><div id="youtube2-jzgHCuHfCqY" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;jzgHCuHfCqY&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/jzgHCuHfCqY?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Ken Hayworth was joined on the BPF&#8217;s judging panel by Sebastian Seung, a Princeton/MIT neuroscientist, author of the book <em>I am my Connectome, </em>and a major contributor to the <a href="https://www.nature.com/collections/hgcfafejia">FlyWire</a> project. Together, they reviewed the 3D images, judged their quality, and traced neurons through the image stacks. In the end, they agreed that I had won the prize.</p><p>Relevant links:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.brainpreservation.org/small-mammal-announcement/">Small Mammal BPF Prize Winning Announcement</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.brainpreservation.org/large-mammal-announcement/">Large Mammal BPF Prize Winning Announcement</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.brainpreservation.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/letterofsupportforasc_kennethhayworth_jan2018-signed.pdf">Letter of support for Aldehyde Stabilized Cryopreservation to be developed into a medical procedure</a></p></li></ul><p>I present this as evidence that it&#8217;s possible to preserve large mammals brains in a traceable state, every synapse intact, and keep them stable for more than a hundred years (the &#8216;hundred years&#8217; part we will address in a future post on the thermodynamics of preservation).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a></p><p>But ASC is not the whole story, because it must be done <em>pre-mortem. </em>End-of-life laws throughout the world weren&#8217;t designed with preservation of terminally ill clients, and don&#8217;t allow ASC as an option. In order to create something workable, I had to either find a way to do preservation <em>post-mortem</em>, or work to incorporate ASC into end-of-life laws. I chose to make preservation work <em>post-mortem</em>.</p><h1>In the field: Andrew Critch and the SFF</h1><p>Making preservation work in the real world turned out to be conceptually easy. The original protocol needs three modifications to work <em>post-mortem</em>.</p><ol><li><p>Cardiac arrest must happen quickly in order to avoid pre-mortem brain damage. We found that Medical Aid-in-Dying (MAiD) is required.</p></li><li><p>You must use blood-thinners before cardiac arrest.</p></li><li><p>You have to do the surgery <em>fast</em>. The perfusion needs to start less than about 12 minutes after death.<br></p></li></ol><p>My dad used to tell me a story of a biology professor he had in college. The first day of class, the professor had everyone open their textbook  and read the first paragraph in one of the last chapters. The professor then told everyone that it had taken him 30 years to write that paragraph. I now better understand how that professor must have felt. It took me nine months to create ASC. It took me nine years to modify it to work in our current legal context and write those three modifications above.</p><p>I won&#8217;t get into those nine years in this post. I do want to share an image, though, that I&#8217;m publishing here for the first time. As far as I know this is the best preserved whole human brain in the world, and it belongs to a 46-year-old man who died of ALS and chose to donate his body for scientific research. I perfused his body just 90 minutes post-mortem&#8212;much faster than typical emergency cryopreservation services, but well outside the twelve-minute ischemic window.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WBgv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b374b17-bc15-4c3e-a870-04b95d6b76bb_1600x1140.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WBgv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b374b17-bc15-4c3e-a870-04b95d6b76bb_1600x1140.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WBgv!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b374b17-bc15-4c3e-a870-04b95d6b76bb_1600x1140.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WBgv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b374b17-bc15-4c3e-a870-04b95d6b76bb_1600x1140.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WBgv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b374b17-bc15-4c3e-a870-04b95d6b76bb_1600x1140.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WBgv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b374b17-bc15-4c3e-a870-04b95d6b76bb_1600x1140.png" width="1456" height="1037" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9b374b17-bc15-4c3e-a870-04b95d6b76bb_1600x1140.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1037,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WBgv!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b374b17-bc15-4c3e-a870-04b95d6b76bb_1600x1140.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WBgv!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b374b17-bc15-4c3e-a870-04b95d6b76bb_1600x1140.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WBgv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b374b17-bc15-4c3e-a870-04b95d6b76bb_1600x1140.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WBgv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b374b17-bc15-4c3e-a870-04b95d6b76bb_1600x1140.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Electron micrograph from the best human preservation I&#8217;ve done to-date. ~90 minutes post-mortem time from a MAiD donation case. The large white space in the middle is a capillary. Here you can find substantial perivascular edema (the white area around the capillary), as well as neuropil that&#8217;s concerningly indistinct. I asked Ken Hayworth to review these images; he does not think they&#8217;re traceable. Additionally, some regions of this brain failed to perfuse entirely; this is from a well-perfused region.</figcaption></figure></div><p>It is the best-preserved whole human brain I&#8217;ve ever seen. It is also&#8212;like every other human brain I preserved with any appreciable post-mortem delay&#8212;not traceable. It&#8217;s not a quality I (or the BPF) can accept. Looking at the degree of damage scares me.</p><p>I originally thought that humans might have a two-hour post-mortem preservation window. If that had been true, I would have probably worked to integrate preservation into hospices across the country. After reviewing the electron micrographs from animals and humans under various preservation conditions, it became clear that the hospice model was nonviable. We couldn&#8217;t wait for a person to die on their own timeline and only then begin our procedure. We&#8217;d need them to undergo a full process involving Medical Aid in Dying (MAiD)&#8212;and before we could promise any benefits from such a process, we needed to perfect it on animals.</p><p>It took a lot of refinement and expert consultation, but eventually we pinned down the twelve-minute window and blood thinner through a series of experiments on rats. We then streamlined the procedure so it could be done in less than ten minutes on pig carcasses, and finally demonstrated excellent post-mortem preservation in a pig model. We&#8217;ve <a href="https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.64898/2026.03.04.709724">just recently published</a> the results:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q3Fj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5195720-308f-47f7-9b3c-7351262d250d_1596x1600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q3Fj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5195720-308f-47f7-9b3c-7351262d250d_1596x1600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q3Fj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5195720-308f-47f7-9b3c-7351262d250d_1596x1600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q3Fj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5195720-308f-47f7-9b3c-7351262d250d_1596x1600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q3Fj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5195720-308f-47f7-9b3c-7351262d250d_1596x1600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q3Fj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5195720-308f-47f7-9b3c-7351262d250d_1596x1600.png" width="1456" height="1460" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d5195720-308f-47f7-9b3c-7351262d250d_1596x1600.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1460,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q3Fj!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5195720-308f-47f7-9b3c-7351262d250d_1596x1600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q3Fj!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5195720-308f-47f7-9b3c-7351262d250d_1596x1600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q3Fj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5195720-308f-47f7-9b3c-7351262d250d_1596x1600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q3Fj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd5195720-308f-47f7-9b3c-7351262d250d_1596x1600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">A 3D FIBSEM image of a pig brain preserved post-mortem. We were able to complete surgery in 4 minutes and 30 seconds, well within the critical twelve-minute window, and attained results that appear traceable. Click through for the video. Additional results available as <a href="https://github.com/boryswrobel-nectome/SongEtal2026-SupplementaryMaterial/releases/tag/SongEtal2026-SupplementaryMaterial">supplemental materials</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zhfC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8320df0d-2e21-4e2b-9c8e-344fbd2609a8_1440x1600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zhfC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8320df0d-2e21-4e2b-9c8e-344fbd2609a8_1440x1600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zhfC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8320df0d-2e21-4e2b-9c8e-344fbd2609a8_1440x1600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zhfC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8320df0d-2e21-4e2b-9c8e-344fbd2609a8_1440x1600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zhfC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8320df0d-2e21-4e2b-9c8e-344fbd2609a8_1440x1600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zhfC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8320df0d-2e21-4e2b-9c8e-344fbd2609a8_1440x1600.png" width="1440" height="1600" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8320df0d-2e21-4e2b-9c8e-344fbd2609a8_1440x1600.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1600,&quot;width&quot;:1440,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zhfC!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8320df0d-2e21-4e2b-9c8e-344fbd2609a8_1440x1600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zhfC!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8320df0d-2e21-4e2b-9c8e-344fbd2609a8_1440x1600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zhfC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8320df0d-2e21-4e2b-9c8e-344fbd2609a8_1440x1600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zhfC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8320df0d-2e21-4e2b-9c8e-344fbd2609a8_1440x1600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">A H&amp;E stained light microscopy image of a pig cerebellum preserved post-mortem. While the FIBSEM shows good nanostructural preservation, this much lower resolution image shows that a large area of brain is preserved well.</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vuY4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F520d0a49-5231-4e1a-b168-45f2299aa027_1600x477.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vuY4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F520d0a49-5231-4e1a-b168-45f2299aa027_1600x477.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vuY4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F520d0a49-5231-4e1a-b168-45f2299aa027_1600x477.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vuY4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F520d0a49-5231-4e1a-b168-45f2299aa027_1600x477.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vuY4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F520d0a49-5231-4e1a-b168-45f2299aa027_1600x477.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vuY4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F520d0a49-5231-4e1a-b168-45f2299aa027_1600x477.png" width="1456" height="434" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/520d0a49-5231-4e1a-b168-45f2299aa027_1600x477.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:434,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vuY4!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F520d0a49-5231-4e1a-b168-45f2299aa027_1600x477.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vuY4!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F520d0a49-5231-4e1a-b168-45f2299aa027_1600x477.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vuY4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F520d0a49-5231-4e1a-b168-45f2299aa027_1600x477.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vuY4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F520d0a49-5231-4e1a-b168-45f2299aa027_1600x477.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Figure from <a href="https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.64898/2026.03.04.709724">our preprint</a>. H&amp;E stained light microscopy images from a poorly-preserved brain (E) and a well-preserved brain (F). Note the substantial white regions present only in the poorly-preserved tissue. This is strong evidence of inadequate perfusion and compromised preservation. The difference between these two images is a few minutes delay in starting preservation.</figcaption></figure></div><h2>Independent evaluation by the SFF</h2><p>About this time, I was chatting with <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/users/andrew_critch">Andrew Critch</a>, cofounder of the <a href="https://survivalandflourishing.fund/">Survival and Flourishing Fund</a> (SFF). Born from Jaan Tallinn&#8217;s <a href="https://jaan.info/philanthropy/">philanthropic efforts</a>, the SFF is dedicated to the long-term survival and flourishing of sentient life. They recommended $34MM of grants in 2025, including support for the AI Futures Project, Lightcone Infrastructure, and MIRI, among <a href="https://survivalandflourishing.fund/2025/recommendations">many others</a>.</p><p>Andrew was interested in evaluating Nectome for an SFF grant. We talked it over and agreed on a third-party evaluation with real stakes: he&#8217;d travel to our lab in Vancouver, Washington to witness and evaluate a preservation first-hand, then bring the samples himself to an EM lab to scan them, and then ask a neuroscientist of his choice to review the sample quality. If he liked what he saw, he&#8217;d support our application to SFF&#8217;s grants team. If we didn&#8217;t live up to the quality we promised, he&#8217;d inform the team accordingly. (SFF uses a distributed grant-making process where each team member has a separate budget for making grant recommendations with substantial discretion.)</p><p>When Andrew arrived at our lab, we introduced him to our test rat,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> and he observed as I gave the test rat an injection of heparin (our blood thinner of choice), followed promptly by simulated medical aid-in-dying. He then timed us as I waited five minutes after the rat&#8217;s heart stopped, mimicking the time I would have spent performing surgery on a pig or a human.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p><p>From there, we proceeded with the tedious 9-hour process: blood washout, fixation, and the slow ramp of cryoprotectants. Andrew watched from start to finish. It was late at night before the preservation was complete, and Andrew watched us remove the rat&#8217;s brain and perform a visual check for gross failures of perfusion. There were none.</p><p>At this point we could have simply placed the brain in cold storage and then handed off the tissue for further evaluation, but I wanted to demonstrate just how robust our current method is instead. I cut the brain into two hemispheres, put one in cold storage at -32&#176;C (-26&#176;F) as a demonstration of the effectiveness of the cryoprotectant at preventing ice formation, and put the other hemisphere in a laboratory oven at 60&#176;C (140&#176;F) overnight. Just as cold storage slows chemical processes, warmth accelerates them; twelve hours at 60&#176;C is equivalent to, conservatively, a week at room temperature.</p><p>When we returned the next day, we sliced each hemisphere into paper-thin slices and Andrew spun up his quantum random number generator.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> He used it to randomly select four slices from each hemisphere for analysis. We sent him home with an introduction to Berkeley&#8217;s electron microscopy core facilities, which immediately started the week-long process of prepping the tissue for imaging including staining, resin embedding, and slicing into 90-nanometer sections.</p><p>After examining the electron micrographs and consulting with several neuroscientists, Andrew determined that our preservation was excellent, that the brain was connectomically traceable, and that both the &#8220;cold&#8221; and the &#8220;hot&#8221; slices were of near-identical preservation quality. He recommended us for a $550,000 investment, which we&#8217;ve since received.</p><p>We&#8217;d like to present this data to you as well. The overall dataset obtained from Berkeley was massive; a single image from one of our samples is around 5 GB and requires special software to view. I&#8217;ve prepared two representative images using deepzoom, here:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hiof!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff07e5b50-2a0f-46fb-8da9-6562cd3bcbf7_1600x1228.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hiof!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff07e5b50-2a0f-46fb-8da9-6562cd3bcbf7_1600x1228.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hiof!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff07e5b50-2a0f-46fb-8da9-6562cd3bcbf7_1600x1228.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hiof!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff07e5b50-2a0f-46fb-8da9-6562cd3bcbf7_1600x1228.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hiof!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff07e5b50-2a0f-46fb-8da9-6562cd3bcbf7_1600x1228.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hiof!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff07e5b50-2a0f-46fb-8da9-6562cd3bcbf7_1600x1228.png" width="1456" height="1117" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f07e5b50-2a0f-46fb-8da9-6562cd3bcbf7_1600x1228.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1117,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hiof!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff07e5b50-2a0f-46fb-8da9-6562cd3bcbf7_1600x1228.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hiof!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff07e5b50-2a0f-46fb-8da9-6562cd3bcbf7_1600x1228.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hiof!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff07e5b50-2a0f-46fb-8da9-6562cd3bcbf7_1600x1228.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hiof!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff07e5b50-2a0f-46fb-8da9-6562cd3bcbf7_1600x1228.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Sample from a rat brain preserved using Nectome&#8217;s methods, then stored at<strong> 60&#176;C</strong> for 12 hours (&#8221;hot&#8221; storage). Electron microscopy performed at the <a href="https://em-lab.berkeley.edu/EML/index.php">Berkeley EM Core</a>. Click the image to see the complete dataset.</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ITwu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b648285-f08f-4284-8c46-de3fca5e3a90_1600x1030.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ITwu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b648285-f08f-4284-8c46-de3fca5e3a90_1600x1030.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ITwu!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b648285-f08f-4284-8c46-de3fca5e3a90_1600x1030.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ITwu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b648285-f08f-4284-8c46-de3fca5e3a90_1600x1030.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ITwu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b648285-f08f-4284-8c46-de3fca5e3a90_1600x1030.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ITwu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b648285-f08f-4284-8c46-de3fca5e3a90_1600x1030.png" width="1456" height="937" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5b648285-f08f-4284-8c46-de3fca5e3a90_1600x1030.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:937,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ITwu!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b648285-f08f-4284-8c46-de3fca5e3a90_1600x1030.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ITwu!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b648285-f08f-4284-8c46-de3fca5e3a90_1600x1030.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ITwu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b648285-f08f-4284-8c46-de3fca5e3a90_1600x1030.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ITwu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b648285-f08f-4284-8c46-de3fca5e3a90_1600x1030.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Sample from a rat brain preserved using Nectome&#8217;s methods, then stored at <strong>-32&#176;C</strong> for 12 hours (&#8220;cold&#8221; storage). Electron microscopy performed at the <a href="https://em-lab.berkeley.edu/EML/index.php">Berkeley EM Core</a>. Click the image to see the complete dataset.</figcaption></figure></div><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This donor has since been revealed to be <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_Wilf">Saar Wilf</a>.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p> Common choices are formaldehyde or glutaraldehyde.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p> ASC actually does better than preserving every synapse &#8211; it also retains virtually all proteins, nucleic acids, and lipids. I&#8217;ll get into the evidence for that in a later post.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p> We nicknamed the rat Chandra. Andrew was sad about us experimenting on animals, and asked us if we&#8217;d try to help preserve and reanimate non-human animals in the future, and of course we said yes!</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p> I&#8217;ve actually recorded a time of 4 minutes 30 seconds in pigs. But I like to leave myself a little wiggle room.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p> I&#8217;ve never met someone else who routinely uses QRNGs for their decisions :)</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Preservation Sequences, part 1: Less Dead]]></title><description><![CDATA[&#8220;Come with me if you want to live.&#8221; &#8211; The Terminator]]></description><link>https://articles.nectome.com/p/the-preservation-sequences-part-1</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://articles.nectome.com/p/the-preservation-sequences-part-1</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nectome]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2026 17:15:06 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f6HX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46af3348-0657-4e42-bcf5-91ea24254e08_1024x452.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="pullquote"><p>&#8220;Come with me if you want to live.&#8221; &#8211; The Terminator</p><p>&#8220;&#8217;Close enough&#8217; only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.&#8221; &#8211; Traditional</p></div><p><strong>After 10 years of research my company, Nectome, has created a new method for whole-body, whole-brain, human end-of-life preservation for the purpose of future revival. Our protocol is capable of preserving every synapse and every cell in the body with enough detail that current neuroscience says long-term memories are preserved. It&#8217;s compatible with traditional funerals at room temperature and stable for hundreds of years at cold temperatures.</strong></p><h2>The short version</h2><ul><li><p>We&#8217;re making a non-Pascal&#8217;s wager version of cryonics.</p></li><li><p>Our method is an end-of-life procedure for whole-body, whole-brain human preservation with the goal of eventual future revival.</p></li><li><p>Preservation occurs after legal death.</p></li><li><p>Even without the near-term possibility of revival we can be confident that preservation actually works.</p></li><li><p>We preserve the whole body, including the brain, at <em>nanoscale, subsynaptic detail</em>. We are capable of preserving every neuron and every synapse in the brain, and almost every protein, lipid, and nucleic acid within each cell and throughout the entire body is held in place by molecular crosslinks.</p></li><li><p>It works by using fixative to bind together the proteins and cryoprotectants to prevent ice over the long term, and cold temperature to extend the stable preservation time period to centuries.</p></li><li><p>We&#8217;ve won the Large Mammal Brain Preservation prize from the Brain Preservation Foundation for preserving animal brains, which involved examining the preserved synapses across many regions of the brain.</p></li><li><p>Unlike previous cryonics methods that required extremely low-temperature liquid nitrogen coolant, our method is stable for months at room temperature and compatible with traditional funeral practices.</p></li><li><p>Biology imposes a strict time limit for successful, real-world preservation: we&#8217;ve found that if you want high-fidelity preservation, you must start the procedure within <strong>twelve minutes</strong> post-mortem. This means that all of our procedures are planned, and we do not offer emergency preservation.</p></li><li><p>We don&#8217;t yet have the technology to revive someone who has been preserved, but we <em>do </em>have the evidence to say that we preserve all the information that would be needed for revival.</p></li><li><p>We&#8217;re agnostic towards revival methods: uploading, biological revival, or any other sort, and we think that regardless of method, our starting point offers the best chance.</p></li><li><p>We&#8217;re offering limited pre-sales <a href="https://nectome.substack.com/p/preservation-pre-sales">now</a>.</p></li></ul><h1>&#8220;Maybe&#8221; isn&#8217;t good enough for me</h1><p>A brief refresher: traditional cryonics uses two things to preserve people: cold to preserve the brain, and cryoprotectants to prevent the catastrophic damage caused by the formation of ice crystals. Unfortunately, cryoprotectants themselves crush neurons through osmotic effects, damaging the structure of the brain.</p><p>Traditional cryonics works in &#8220;emergency mode&#8221;, where cryonics organizations are first notified after one of their members dies, then attempt to preserve them in response, often with a delay of hours or even days during which time the brain is damaged. Traditional cryonics takes place after a &#8220;natural death&#8221; in most cases. However, <a href="https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/07/17/who-by-very-slow-decay/">natural deaths take a long time</a>, and brain damage sets in well before legal death. For me, all this damage calls into question whether memories are really preserved.</p><p>The strongest argument for traditional cryonics is that any kind of preservation is better than nothing, and that cryonics is &#8220;<a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/yKXKcyoBzWtECzXrE/you-only-live-twice">not a secure way to erase a person</a>&#8220;. This is true enough as far as it goes: certainly, no physical process truly &#8220;destroys&#8221; information. What we really care about with preservation is how accessible the information is and whether it&#8217;s still contained within a person&#8217;s preserved body or not. This is a really important question for me, so I <a href="https://asteriskmag.com/issues/10/brain-freeze">ran the experiments myself</a> and was not impressed.</p><p>I set out to build something that feels to me like less of a Pascal&#8217;s Wager. I want a preservation protocol that, according to our best theories of neuroscience, <strong>does</strong> work. At the same time, I wanted to craft an experience that normal people would be comfortable with &#8211; I want our parents and grandparents to be willing to come into the future with us.</p><p>The result is a protocol that my company, Nectome, has spent the past ten years developing. After years of experiments in the lab and in the field, learning about the complexity of end-of-life biology, and after refining our protocol to make it robust and repeatable for real people in real-world clinical settings, we are now ready. We&#8217;ve developed a <strong>whole-body, whole-brain, human end-of-life preservation protocol</strong> based on neuroscience first principles. We are capable of preserving every synapse and almost every protein, lipid, and nucleic acid throughout the whole body. Brains are connectomically traceable after preservation. Our preservation is so comprehensive that current neuroscience theories imply it preserves all relevant information necessary for future restoration of a preserved person.</p><p>Further reading: <a href="https://asteriskmag.com/issues/10/brain-freeze">&#8220;Brain Freeze&#8221;, Aurelia Song, Asterisk Magazine</a></p><h1>A preservation protocol that&#8217;s worthy of us</h1><p>Cryonics in my opinion has had two main issues holding it back, both of which we&#8217;ve solved.</p><p><strong>The Quality Problem</strong>: The first issue is that traditional cryonics methods haven&#8217;t been shown, even under ideal circumstances, to preserve brains well enough that they&#8217;re connectomically traceable afterwards. We solved this issue by adding crosslinks to the mix. In 2015 I published a protocol in <em><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001122401500245X">Cryobiology</a></em> using crosslinks, cryoprotectants, and cold to preserve animal brains with near-perfect quality. In 2018 I won the Brain Preservation Foundation&#8217;s <a href="https://www.brainpreservation.org/large-mammal-announcement/">Large Mammal Brain Preservation Prize</a><strong> </strong>using aldehyde-stabilized cryopreservation.</p><p><strong>The Timing Problem</strong>: The second issue is with the emergency response model of traditional cryonics. Doing preservations as an emergency response and after a natural death causes damage independent of whatever protocol you&#8217;re using. Severe damage happens before legal death as a result of inadequate blood circulation and partial brain ischemia. Even more damage occurs post-mortem due to cell autolysis and other degradation pathways. Shortly after death it becomes almost impossible to completely perfuse brains (this is the problem that ended up giving us the most trouble).</p><p>We worked from 2018 to 2025 trying to solve the Timing Problem to our satisfaction, and eventually succeeded in <a href="https://nectome.com/personal-preservation">creating a protocol</a> that gave comparable results to our ideal laboratory version, but could be used in the real world. There&#8217;s a cost, of course, for this quality: we&#8217;ve learned that preservations must start within <strong>twelve minutes</strong> post-mortem after a quick respiratory death. That means preservations have to be scheduled in advance, and they have to be done in conjunction with medical aid-in-dying (MAiD).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f6HX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46af3348-0657-4e42-bcf5-91ea24254e08_1024x452.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f6HX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46af3348-0657-4e42-bcf5-91ea24254e08_1024x452.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f6HX!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46af3348-0657-4e42-bcf5-91ea24254e08_1024x452.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f6HX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46af3348-0657-4e42-bcf5-91ea24254e08_1024x452.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f6HX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46af3348-0657-4e42-bcf5-91ea24254e08_1024x452.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f6HX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46af3348-0657-4e42-bcf5-91ea24254e08_1024x452.png" width="1024" height="452" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/46af3348-0657-4e42-bcf5-91ea24254e08_1024x452.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:452,&quot;width&quot;:1024,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f6HX!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46af3348-0657-4e42-bcf5-91ea24254e08_1024x452.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f6HX!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46af3348-0657-4e42-bcf5-91ea24254e08_1024x452.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f6HX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46af3348-0657-4e42-bcf5-91ea24254e08_1024x452.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f6HX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46af3348-0657-4e42-bcf5-91ea24254e08_1024x452.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The images above are taken from the BPF&#8217;s <a href="https://www.brainpreservation.org/accreditation/">Accreditation</a> page. On the left, you can see the pig brain which I preserved, winning the Large Mammal prize. The cellular structure is intact and it&#8217;s easy to trace the connections between the neurons. The right-hand image shows the damage caused by traditional preservation, even under ideal circumstances. Real preservation cases are far worse due to pre- and post-mortem brain damage. Maybe a superintelligence could reconstruct the structure &#8211; but it&#8217;s unclear whether the information to do so remains.</p><p>We&#8217;ve published a preprint of some of the most relevant experiments on <a href="https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.64898/2026.03.04.709724v1">bioRxiv</a>, where we show we can get the same excellent quality we got in 2018, except now under realistic end-of-life conditions. We&#8217;ve also performed experiments which have undergone independent evaluation; we&#8217;ll discuss those in a subsequent post, but for now here&#8217;s a sneak peek:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ccc0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74ec3522-18ee-40f6-835d-2033c67fc8f4_1600x823.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ccc0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74ec3522-18ee-40f6-835d-2033c67fc8f4_1600x823.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ccc0!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74ec3522-18ee-40f6-835d-2033c67fc8f4_1600x823.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ccc0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74ec3522-18ee-40f6-835d-2033c67fc8f4_1600x823.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ccc0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74ec3522-18ee-40f6-835d-2033c67fc8f4_1600x823.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ccc0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74ec3522-18ee-40f6-835d-2033c67fc8f4_1600x823.png" width="1456" height="749" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/74ec3522-18ee-40f6-835d-2033c67fc8f4_1600x823.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:749,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ccc0!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74ec3522-18ee-40f6-835d-2033c67fc8f4_1600x823.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ccc0!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74ec3522-18ee-40f6-835d-2033c67fc8f4_1600x823.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ccc0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74ec3522-18ee-40f6-835d-2033c67fc8f4_1600x823.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ccc0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74ec3522-18ee-40f6-835d-2033c67fc8f4_1600x823.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is a section taken from a rat brain preserved 5 minutes post-mortem in a manner that&#8217;s consistent with the surgical time we can achieve with pigs. All axons, dendrites, and synapses pictured are connectomically traceable. After preservation, we stored this brain at 60&#176;C for ~12 hours before imaging! Click through for a &#8220;Google Earth&#8221;-style presentation of the whole slice, which is around 5 GB of data.</p><h1>What does preservation look like for you?</h1><p>In order to work within the limits of biology, Nectome does preservation exclusively as a planned, scheduled procedure. We do not offer an emergency response model because there is no emergency response model we could do which would meet our standard. To receive a preservation which meets our standard of care, terminally ill patients must plan in advance, travel to a preservation center, and use medical aid-in-dying.</p><p>Our business model is different than traditional cryonics: we sell transferrable preservations in advance instead of using a membership + insurance model. When you buy a preservation, you buy the ability to designate a person of your choice (including yourself) to be preserved. We will then work with that person to understand their preferences for preservation, the most important of which are:</p><ol><li><p><strong>Chain of custody: </strong>In the event of an impending loss of custody of your preserved body, such as major government changes, what do you want us to do? Do you want us to cremate you, or do you want us to do our best to make sure you stay preserved, even if it means we will no longer be in control of what happens later? <br></p></li><li><p><strong>Method of revival</strong>: Do you want to restrict which revival methods may be used to restore you in the future? Nectome is officially agnostic on revival method. Do you want to restrict the use of destructive uploading to revive you? Wait for 100 years and then only do it if there&#8217;s not another option? Do it but only after 1,000 people have done it before you and liked it? This is a very personal question and we want to get as much information in advance so we can respect your choice.</p></li></ol><p>We&#8217;ll be inviting clients and their families to stay for a few days at a beautiful preservation center in the peaceful Oregon foothills, where they can spend time together, say their goodbyes, and participate in any farewell ceremonies they choose. After the procedure the preserved person is stable for months at room temperature, allowing for a standard open-casket funeral in their home state.</p><p>In the long term, preserved people will be maintained at -32&#176;C. In all cases, they will remain in a whole-body state; Nectome never does brain-only storage.</p><h1>Conclusion</h1><p>I&#8217;ve introduced here a new kind of cryonics which I hope will move the field away from Pascal&#8217;s wager and towards a rigorous discipline that becomes a mainstream part of end-of-life care.</p><p>We can preserve people following MAiD with a protocol that can preserve every synapse and virtually all biomolecules, throughout a person&#8217;s entire body. That&#8217;s good enough that our current theories of neuroscience say it <strong>does </strong>work to retain sufficient information about a person such that they could be restored with adequate future technology.</p><p>We know that our protocol doesn&#8217;t serve everyone, and we hope that continuing scientific and legal advances will allow us to preserve an increasing fraction of people. But it serves many people (most people don&#8217;t die suddenly!), and we want to offer something that verifiably works, not a shot in the dark.</p><p>We don&#8217;t yet have the technology to revive someone who has been preserved, but we do have the evidence to say that we preserve all the information that would be needed for revival.</p><p>Over the next posts in this series, I&#8217;ll go over the information-theoretic basis we use for preservation, the reasons why it has to be an end of life protocol, our hope for the long-term future, why this all still makes sense even given short AI timelines, and several other things.</p><p>In the meantime, below you&#8217;ll find several of the links in this post and descriptions of why you might want to read them.</p><h1>I want you to live</h1><p>Why did I spend the last 10 years of my life on this project?</p><p>We all start out life born in twin prisons: the gravity well of the earth, keeping us on a tiny speck of dust compared to the wider universe beyond, and the limit of our natural lifespan, confining us to a tiny sliver of the universe&#8217;s grand history.</p><p>When preservation becomes a new worldwide tradition, even before revival is technically possible, it will expand peoples&#8217; personal planning horizons. I expect to see people start 1,000 year projects believing they will personally see the end result. I&#8217;d like to see what they choose to make.</p><p>I believe that Preservation is for everyone and that <a href="https://www.arielzj.com/the-future-loves-you">the future loves you</a> and wants to welcome you back with a desire that can&#8217;t be conveyed with words on a page. Let&#8217;s get there, together.</p><div><hr></div><ul><li><p>Our whitepaper detailing how preservation will work and why we think it works. <a href="https://nectome.com/personal-preservation-whitepaper.pdf">https://nectome.com/personal-preservation-whitepaper.pdf</a></p></li><li><p>Our recently-published work preserving pigs under real world end-of-life conditions. <a href="https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.64898/2026.03.04.709724v1">https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.64898/2026.03.04.709724v1</a></p></li><li><p>The paper describing the technique that won both Brain Preservation Prizes: <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001122401500245X">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001122401500245X</a></p></li><li><p>Brain Preservation Prize large mammal announcement: <a href="https://www.brainpreservation.org/large-mammal-announcement/">https://www.brainpreservation.org/large-mammal-announcement/</a></p></li><li><p>&#8220;The Case for Glutaraldehyde&#8221; an analysis of why fixation likely preserves sufficient information about a person for future reconstruction: <a href="https://nectome.com/the-case-for-glutaraldehyde-structural-encoding-and-preservation-of-long-term-memories/">https://nectome.com/the-case-for-glutaraldehyde-structural-encoding-and-preservation-of-long-term-memories/</a></p></li><li><p>Brain Freeze, an article in Asterisk Magazine talking about the problems facing traditional cryonics: <a href="https://asteriskmag.com/issues/10/brain-freeze">https://asteriskmag.com/issues/10/brain-freeze</a></p></li><li><p>The BPF&#8217;s plan for accreditation. Nectome hopes to become fully accredited and begin preserving people this year. <a href="https://www.brainpreservation.org/accreditation/">https://www.brainpreservation.org/accreditation/</a></p></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Preservation Sales]]></title><description><![CDATA[Nectome&#8217;s preservation services employ a new method for whole-body, whole-brain, human end-of-life preservation for the purpose of future revival.]]></description><link>https://articles.nectome.com/p/preservation-pre-sales</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://articles.nectome.com/p/preservation-pre-sales</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Nectome]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 00:38:43 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o_Md!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde8a4bb1-2bf9-4b57-9abb-aeb972169633_1280x1280.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nectome&#8217;s preservation services employ a new method for whole-body, whole-brain, human end-of-life preservation for the purpose of future revival.</p><p>Our protocol is capable of preserving every synapse and every cell in the body with enough detail that current neuroscience says long-term memories are preserved. It&#8217;s compatible with traditional funerals at room temperature and stable for hundreds of years at cold temperatures.</p><p>Nectome has a very straightforward &#8220;buy a preservation, get a preservation&#8221; model. We don&#8217;t do memberships, insurance, or lots of red tape. You sign one document, you send us money, and you&#8217;re entitled to one preservation. You can use it for yourself or a loved one, and you don&#8217;t need to decide at the time of purchase. If the person ends up not being eligible, use it for someone else or resell it.</p><h1>Currently offering full-price sales at $250k</h1><p>As of <strong>5/11/2026, </strong>we&#8217;re currently only offering full-price sales. Watch this space for future deals for select communities.</p><h1>How to buy</h1><p>Reach out to us at <strong><a href="mailto:hello@nectome.com">hello@nectome.com</a></strong> to discuss purchasing for yourself or a loved one.</p>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>